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Transitioning to the Dark Side - a Detailed Log
Written by jprelock on 4/1/2011 at 05:30 am

It's kind of interesting actually. Pressing down hard on the inside peg
allows the bike to turn in very quickly, almost wobbly, because all your
inputs are going in the same direction. Pressing down on the outside peg
creates an isometric movement where you're stabilizing the turning in motion
with opposing forces, which does make turn-in a little slower, but you can
bring back the speed with more force at the bars. One might ask why would
one want to do that. In addition to potential more control over turn-in,
one theory said weight on the outside peg allowed better feel and control
over a sliding rear tire.
-John

On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 7:50 PM, jim.strtr <jim.strtr@...> wrote:

> Call me old fashioned, but I can't even fathom pressing down hard on the
> outside peg. That just sounds totally wobbly to me. But then I never was a
> fantastic road racer. Once I fell down a couple of times I had a vision
> that told me "this is just not your thing man" back in the seventies. J.S.
>
>
>
> --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, John P <jprelock@...> wrote:
> >
> > Well, David did say for a given rider position, but I was sort of
> thinking
> > the same thing, how do you know exactly who is hanging off how far if
> it's
> > only subtle? And the technique you describe works as well if you put
> weight
> > on the outside peg too.
> > -John
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Mar 31, 2011 at 5:40 PM, jim.strtr <jim.strtr@...> wrote:
> >
> > > Ah contrare! I am a former (very old) road racer. To lean the bike
> over
> > > less, all you have to do is get your butt off the seat and slide it to
> the
> > > inside and put all your weight on the inside foot peg. Once you do
> that the
> > > bike will lift up a bit and allow you to go thru the corner even
> faster.
> > > That's why those crazy guys get their butt off the seat and squat down
> as
> > > much as possible. Just my 2 cents worth. J.S.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "David" <david.dockstader@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have to disagree. The lean angle for a give bike and rider position
> is
> > > just a function of speed and radius of the turn. He was going fast!
> Anybody
> > > else going that fast would also lean that far.
> > > >
> > > > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "literidr" <literidr@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > That photo in the Dragon is scariest of all. When you see how far
> over
> > > that bike had to lean to make that curve compared to all the other
> bikes,
> > > you'll realize that curves are not what those darkside tires are good
> at.
> > > > >
> > > > > John Handford, literidr@
> > > > > Taylors, SC
> > > > > 90 PC "Spirit"
>