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Extra lights on the crashbars?
Written by douglasvanb on 4/10/2011 at 03:52 pm

Wow that's a nice setup! Are there any legal issues with festooning zillions of
LEDs on the bike or by using amber, do you get around those problems? I know in
Oregon that I can't put on undercarriage lights but I'm not sure about other
sorts of additional lights... The state laws are a bit vague on that here.

Regarding the self-canceling turn signals not supporting LEDs, I believe
something like an Arduino could replace the stock unit and would then be able to
support LEDs. However, I haven't done it yet because 1) I'm busy with other
projects 2) the last time I checked, I wasn't satisfied with the LED bulb
replacement options and 3) I'm not sure how well an Arduino would hold up in the
working environment of a PC800. Maybe there is an automotive shield available
for the Arduino? It would be a very interesting experiment...

Cheers,

Douglas

--- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "mikeyb_houtex" <houtex@...> wrote:
>
> (Sorry for reiterating some of my earlier post, but...)
> I don't have explicit pictures of their individual installs, but I've put the
ones I do have up with them on and running here:
>
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ipcrc/photos/album/406016289/pic/list
>
> The Left Side Quarter View picture has the driving lights on the crash bars,
you can see them in front of the protectors. I can't find those exact lights,
but these are close:
>
http://www.easy-motorcycle.com/car-truck-van-universal-day-fog-aux-16-led-white-\
light-p-184.html?zenid=fr21bofdio7l0ncb96qap20sf6

>
> Except mine are amber, and have 7 or 8 LEDs, and aren't as bright, probably.
About as bright as the turn signals, and it looks like I have four with these.
:) Although the LEDs do not blink.
>
> In the ducts are these little 4 Yellow LED marker lamps.. these aren't they,
but they're close:
>
http://secure.countywebsite.com/victorylane/product_info.php?cPath=61_70_62&prod\
ucts_id=1335&osCsid=cd2dbad2201b3ab23ee3b9799246d44b

>
> I also have two of these 'under' the pax handles on a mounting plate.
>
> The rest are various LED strips in yellow, with two different sets, depending
on what I found/needed.
>
> There are two strips of 'edge lighting' LED flex strips that are sewn into the
front edge of the seat to light up the seat seam and side of the bike. Think
Starship Enterprise NCC-1701 and NCC-1701-A lighting systems in the movies for
that. Those are 3 LEDs each side.
>
> I have a 15 LED flex strip of those edge ones that do the trunk on each side.
Interestingly enough, they come with some sort of silicone protection bead on
them, but the trunk wore those off. So I removed the silicone, and they're now
protected with clear shipping tape. I find it to be emminently allright, and
she's ridden through rain with them like that. Strangely enough.
>
> Then there are the 'center mounted' LED strips that are glued to the bottom of
the 4 LED marker light under the pax handles, which light up the topside of the
trunk more.
>
> They are all wired directly into the 12V Key On circuit, and all are on two
wire '60s Ford quick-disconnects for removal if needed, all keyed the same so it
doesn't matter which plug goes where. There are 5 QCs under the driver seat for
the trunk strips (2), the pax handles (2) and the seat lights (1).
>
> The ducts are also QC'd that way. The driving lamps on the bars come with the
barrel ones, so I used those, but they do not generally require removal and
disconnecting, they stay on the bike during maintenance. The crash covers have
no issue going over them.
>
> I have not yet, but am still thinking about it, maybe, doing the rest of the
lights in LEDs... however, my problem is the turn signals and brake lights. My
setup also has a blinking then solid brake light, and I'm not sure it would work
with LEDs. It's a fact the turn signals won't work right with them. That
leaves only the dashboard lamps, and I just don't see the point then.
>
> Still, it would garner a few more amps/watts... Enough, hopefully, for a
couple of Gerbing items? :)
>
> Side note: The original lamps I had on the crashbars were 50 watts each fogs,
and after 2 hours of riding, I killed the battery outright. Thankfully, it was
not 2 blocks from my house. I disconnected the lamps, got a push start, and she
was fine after that, except I hadda slow charge the battery. The battery, btw,
is fine, and is still makin' her run... it was pretty new, so it came back
pretty easily. Still, pretty good testament for the Yuasa battery, I think.
>
> Obvously, those 100 watts were too much to add. That's when I found these LED
ones, and it's been good ever since.
>
> I'll get more pictures and post them up next time I think about it. :) Again,
apologies for reiterating, but I felt it was necessary to do that.
>
> Mike
> '95 PC800, "Ride"
>
> --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "douglasvanb" <douglas.vanbossuyt@> wrote:
> >
> > Do you have pictures of your setup, Mike? And what sort of circuitry are
you using to drive your LED arrays? Did you convert over all of the other
non-headlight lights on the bike to LED?
> >
> > Cheers,
> >
> > Douglas
> > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "mikeyb_houtex" <houtex@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have a set of them mounted on some little brass clamps I made myself on
the front of the crash bars. The clamps stick out of the hole in the front of
the protector, and the amber LEDs, while not lighting up the road, definitely
light up the front spats and the sides of the PC, plus make the bike look bigger
from the front.
> > >
> > > I also added some yellow LEDs (as mine's yellow like a Gold Wing) in the
scoops, along the trunk seam, and on a little panel I made to mount under the
passenger handrails.
> > >
> > > I also have some sewed into the fronts of the seat to try to light up the
panels in front of my legs, but my legs tend to hide those.
> > >
> > > I will soon have a trunk with LEDs running red, amber turn signals up
high, and a top mounted spoiler brake light LED bar.
> > >
> > > If you don't see me on the road at night, you need to not be drivin'. :D
> > >
> > > In other words... I kinda like the LEDs.
> > >
> > > Mike
> > > '95 PC800, Ride
> > >
> > > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Lee" <unclemilty_lee@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Darrell" <dotson85@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I picked up a set of LED driving lights off ebay a year ago and
haven't had the time to install them yet but they draw about 3 volts as I did
hook them up to an old battery to check the amount of light they produced. Then
left them on to see how long they would stay on, with the old battery. After 3
days they had drained the battery. I plan to install them sometime this summer
if riding doesn't get in the way..
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > What's your opinion on the output of the LED driving lights?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Message Thread for message #102164

twothreeclave
11/14/2008, 09:11 pm
Extra lights on the crashbars?
Hi, gang, The first owner of my PC installed some small, KMart-style lights below the front crashbars, using screws to anchor the brackets to the plastic itself. They don't light up the world, but they do create a nice triangle of l

    swiftsadie
    11/14/2008, 09:25 pm
    Extra lights on the crashbars?
    Take a look at "The Electrical Connection" for lights. Dick

    tmsinfiniti
    11/15/2008, 02:47 pm
    Extra lights on the crashbars?
    Hi Jim, Having driven in the dark a great deal on more than one occassion, here are my thoughts on extra lighting, and installing it on a vehicle. Extra driving lights are great to help you avoid accidents, pedestrians, small animals, and

    mac.hancock57
    11/15/2008, 04:08 pm
    Extra lights on the crashbars?
    Hi Tom, Being somewhat new to the PC I am wondering how you attached your lights under the headlight?? I would like to mount lights farther apart and lower, but have not decided how to do that.? I like the looks of the ones mounted below

    lcshepp
    11/16/2008, 09:26 am
    Extra lights on the crashbars?
    Hi Tom, > You may want to ask Leland Shepard about his setup, I > believe he and another coaster have something similiar to mine, plus > they have installed a amperage/wattage saving device that sounds really > cool. You

      yankeesmuggler
      11/16/2008, 06:35 pm
      Extra lights on the crashbars?
      You many be right on this one Leland. How do you keep track of everything we have installed on our motorcycles? I have two driving/fog lights mounted under my headlight. I've had this set up since 1998. The lights I have came from The Ele

        swiftsadie
        11/18/2008, 01:54 am
        Extra lights on the crashbars?
        Our thought are with you. Wishing for a successful and uneventful surgery and recovery. Dick MacInnes

          swiftly1...
          4/6/2011, 08:14 pm
          Extra lights on the crashbars?
          Guess I'd better sell my '94 PC, '85 CB650SC Nighthawk and '75 GL1000 Gold Wing. I'm way too old to even think about riding at 80.5 years. Dick MacInnes

    dotson85...
    4/7/2011, 03:33 am
    Extra lights on the crashbars?
    I picked up a set of LED driving lights off ebay a year ago and haven't had the time to install them yet but they draw about 3 volts as I did hook them up to an old battery to check the amount of light they produced. Then left them on to see

      unclemilty_lee
      4/8/2011, 02:17 am
      Extra lights on the crashbars?
      --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Darrell" <dotson85@...> wrote: > > I picked up a set of LED

        mikeyb_houtex
        4/8/2011, 02:56 am
        Extra lights on the crashbars?
        I have a set of them mounted on some little brass clamps I made myself on the front of the crash bars. The clamps stick out of the hole in the front of the protector, and the amber LEDs, while not lighting up the road, definitely light up the

          douglasvanb
          4/8/2011, 03:45 pm
          Extra lights on the crashbars?
          Do you have pictures of your setup, Mike? And what sort of circuitry are you using to drive your LED arrays? Did you convert over all of the other non-headlight lights on the bike to LED? Cheers, Douglas --- In

            mikeyb_houtex
            4/10/2011, 05:33 am
            Extra lights on the crashbars?
            (Sorry for reiterating some of my earlier post, but...) I don't have explicit pictures of their individual installs, but I've put the ones I do have up with them on and running here:

              douglasvanb
              4/10/2011, 03:52 pm
              Extra lights on the crashbars?
              Wow that's a nice setup! Are there any legal issues with festooning zillions of LEDs on the bike or by using amber, do you get around those problems? I know in Oregon that I can't put on undercarriage lights but I'm not sure about other sorts

                csury
                4/10/2011, 05:25 pm
                Extra lights on the crashbars?
                I replaced my front and rear turn signal bulbs with amber 68-SMD LED 1157 equivalents in front, and amber 68-SMD LED 1156 equivalents in back. I also installed red 68-SMD LED 1157 equivalents for my brake and rear running lights as well and a

                  douglasvanb
                  4/10/2011, 06:17 pm
                  Extra lights on the crashbars?
                  How long have you been running the LED setup? I remember a post from a year or so ago where someone indicated that their self-canceling unit toasted itself after they converted to LED. Can't find the relevant post at the moment though. That i

                    csury
                    4/10/2011, 09:52 pm
                    Extra lights on the crashbars?
                    I switched over to LED bulbs last fall, and haven't noticed any deterioration at all with turn signal function. My main reason was to reduce the power used by the two 23 or 25 watt 1157 brake light bulbs when I'm stuck and constantly usin

                mikeyb_houtex
                4/11/2011, 01:35 am
                Extra lights on the crashbars?
                There aren't any legal issues as the ones that I'm using are really the same as the ones on trucks... Marker lights, in effect. I don't know why anyone would think undercarriage lights would be a bad thing... anything that gets you notice

        dotson85...
        4/9/2011, 06:25 am
        Extra lights on the crashbars?
        The light output in my garage was very good. I will be installing them this summer, --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Le