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Well, what do you know? Harley made a common sense bike.
Written by bigtikis on 7/25/2011 at 01:22 pm

They say the military salute originated with the Knights of medieval times, when
they had to raise face shields to recognize each other. Waving is an
acknowledgment of someone who is like us- on a bike. But in our fractured
multicultural world, friends are where you find them. I may have more in common
to the cager who is tail-gaiting me than I have even to you.
I pulled off the side of the road on my 87 Venture Royale a few years ago. A
Hardley rider on an old beater saw me, and turned around and parked right behind
me. He was dressed in rags, and looked like he stepped out of Mad Max, and
walked up right to me while I got off the phone. He was inches away, with no
idea of personal space. He then asked if I was OK. He said we are brothers and
have to take care of one another.
On another occasion in Mexico, when I had a flat on the rear of my Venture, a
helmetless rider on a sportster pulled up. He was well dressed and for three
hours helped by providing drinks in the hot sun, and helping negotiate with the
Vulcanador (tire repair shanty).
He was a lawyer and running for office.
I offered to buy him dinner but he graciously refused any compensation.
I have stopped for riders of all makes and models to offer support, and received
kindness from strangers on many occasions.
So I have no ill will towards any rider- just do not like the pretentiousness of
the Hardly brand, their overpriced products, or the attitudes shown by many of
the riders.



--- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Rhoades" <wingrider@...> wrote:
>
> A long time ago there was a comraderie and a sense of dependence on each other
among motorcyclists. We were few, and the wave conveyed this comraderie and
recognition of a kindred spirit. While there was a rivlary between HD and
Indian, and both against the brits..when push came to shove they would help each
other. The motorcyclist was a different breed then. the came the 60s and the
japanese began the spread of motorcycling to the masses. Over the years the
sense of comraderie, respect, and dependence has been lost. The price of
progress.
> I can remember wanting a used Triumph from the local shop, I had to hang
around helping around the shop, learning how to perform basic maintenance, and
being show how to ride for almost a year before they would sell me the bike.
However, te owner knew I wanted it nd refused to sell it to anyone else..but he
wouldn't sel it to me until he thought I was ready. We stayed friends for
years.
>
> Tom Rhoades
> 1989 Honda PC800 "White Flight"
>
> --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "bigtikis" <bigpixels@> wrote:
> >
> > Are we in high school, here? tWho Cares? I stopped waving a long time ago. I
have to have more in common with someone than just two wheels under your a** to
want to talk to them or want to know them anyway. Many Hardly riders I have met
are racist, xenophobes, crude, and blind conformists who like to think they are
"bad boys". If your bike isn't black with chrome, you don't rate. Some are
felons, and toughs, but most are posers.
> > If they weren't so scared of dyin' why do they have to have obnoxious loud
pipes?
> > I find much more commonality with Jap bike owners. And college grads.
> > Waving is foolish anyway. I'd rather focus on the highway in front of me.
> > My .02. You think as you wish.
> >
> > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "C172myP51" <c172myp51@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I know this is dead horse beating, but I have a tiny problem with the
small # of Harley riders who don't wave back when I'm on a PC - and I'm
excluding the 1%ers. I completely get that most of them think we're engaging in
different activities, and hopefully they get that I think they're silly,
uncomfortable, organ-donors-to-be. Having said that, 75-80% of the Harley guys
DO wave. I further state that if price were no object, hell yeah I'd own a
Harley!
> > >
> > > BUT, the group that I really have a problem with are the metric cruisers
that don't wave back. Somebody's got to explain that logic.
> > >
> > > -Scott
> > >
> > > > Lot assumptions and generalities there. It looks like a nice ride. and
I had hoped that this kind of attitude about other riders didn't exist here.
> > >
> >
>

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