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New Clutch?
Written by goldwingman40 on 3/28/2012 at 09:00 pm

Tim,
Put that gasket on a good clean surface dry. That gasket swells with many of the
gasket sealers. I tryed Permatex high tack gasket sealer and it swelled right
after I sprayed it. I would order 2 gaskets so you have a spare if you have a
problem and don't have to wait to get another.
Fred



--- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, Tim Davies <yankeesmuggler@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks for the heads up on this, patriot. I'm doing a clutch replacement at
the end of April on my first ever Maintenance Mooch Tour on my way to the
Eastern Shore Ride in Chincoteague.
>
> Tim Davies
> Seneca Falls, NY
> YankeeSmuggler II 1998
>
> Sent from my iPhone 4S????
>
> On Mar 28, 2012, at 4:12 PM, "patriot" <pgrwhistler@...> wrote:
>
> > When I did the clutch I put some high temp Permatex gasket material on the
gasket to hold it in place during reassembly. about a week later I developed a
oil leak. ordered new gasket and on disassembly found original gasket had been
"melted " by the Permatex. Cleaned and reassembled with new gasket and so far
looks ok .
> >
> >
>
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Message Thread for message #111756

kdavidhiatt
6/5/2009, 10:33 pm
New Clutch?
Some of you may remember my continuing saga to get my Dad's pc800 back on the road. Bottom line, after he died, it sat in a garage on the east coast for several years. Last month, I had it shipped out to Oakland. Then I towed it up to

    pc800dork
    6/5/2009, 11:31 pm
    New Clutch?
    I deleted my first reply so I could be more clear. I suggest first doing a FRESH oil change using NON Energy-Conserving oil. Many here are happy with Rotella-T. It is available at Walmart. As I understand certain oils can cause clutch

      rudyg1937
      6/6/2009, 11:11 am
      New Clutch?
      My first thought was what kind of oil did you put in. I would suspect that first as your problem description reads like a classic case of energy conserving oil. At 22k I doubt the clutch is bad but it is possible. I'd change oil and filte

    ziogeo
    6/5/2009, 11:46 pm
    New Clutch?
    I have used Rotella-T for more years than I care to mention, in Gold Wings i.e. 1000, 1100, and several 1500's. Never had a problem. Ziogeo In a message dated 6/5/2009 7:31:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

    kdavidhiatt
    6/6/2009, 10:58 pm
    New Clutch?
    Thanks so much to all of you who responded. I hadn't thought of the oil possibility. I doubt very much that Leland's mechanic would have put anything weird in there - he's been working on Leland's PC800 stable, and many others, for a long tim

      pc800dork
      6/6/2009, 11:26 pm
      New Clutch?
      I'd STILL do the oil - before I went to the shop. It's 10 minutes of cheap / easy work. Just trying to be helpful.

      radamec123
      6/8/2009, 03:02 am
      New Clutch?
      Kdh, I just had a day of work on my clutch master cylinder. My problem was that the clutch wouldn't release. I could put it in gear and rev the engine. and release the lever, and nothing would happen. I played with it. tried to add

        troy.ohio_pc800
        6/8/2009, 11:25 am
        New Clutch?
        That tiny hole in the floor of the master cylinder reservoir for both clutch and front brakes is called the compensating port and its function is to allow fluid to return after the lever is released. If that hole is plugged, the fluid (under

          radamec123
          6/9/2009, 01:44 am
          New Clutch?
          >Whenever I change the brake/clutch fluid, I always draw the old fluid out of the reservoir then carefully wipe clean any crud that accumulates in the reservoir.... > >Doing this every two years is a lot simplier than disassemblin

            kdavidhiatt
            6/13/2009, 12:31 am
            New Clutch?
            Again, thanks to everyone who responded. Rachel, my symptoms sounded exactly like what you described, so the clogged master cylinder port sounded more and more likely. And that's EXACTLY what it was. Here's what happened: After

              pc800dork
              6/13/2009, 01:04 am
              New Clutch?
              Very happy to hear you are up and running! As a do-it-yourselfer I tend to start with the cheapest fix and then work towards the more expensive. Shops tend to start with the most expensive and work the other way. RARELY will a shop mechan

              radamec123
              6/13/2009, 07:51 pm
              New Clutch?
              K, Three Cheers!!!! I am soooo glad that things worked out for you, too!!!! Thanks Dan, you're diagnosis of my problem has already continued on to help others!!! Three Cheers!!! Rachel From

                rwven6956
                6/14/2009, 02:11 pm
                New Clutch?
                The clutch is easy to replace. I'll bet I could do it in the parking lot of the Ridgetop Motel ;^)>! (inside joke) $850.00 is an insane amount of money for that job. --- In

                  troy.ohio_pc800
                  6/14/2009, 03:09 pm
                  New Clutch?
                  "...I'll bet I could do it in the parking lot of the Ridgetop Motel...Ron" Well, there some unique parameters to be met: 1) it has to be raining and 2) you have to wait patiently for Mac to show-up with his PC800 Rescue Wagon. :-)

                    jwswingle
                    6/15/2009, 02:14 am
                    New Clutch?
                    I can ditto that! My son did mine in my driveway in 2 hours, the first clutch either of us had done, new stainless springs from MSC and new friction plates from ebay and gasket from Service Honda, total under $100. No special tools necess

                    pgrwhistler
                    3/28/2012, 08:12 pm
                    New Clutch?
                    When I did the clutch I put some high temp Permatex gasket material on the gasket to hold it in place during reassembly. about a week later I developed a oil leak. ordered new gasket and on disassembly found original gasket had been "mel

                      yankeesmuggler
                      3/28/2012, 08:28 pm
                      New Clutch?
                      Thanks for the heads up on this, patriot. I'm doing a clutch replacement at the end of April on my first ever Maintenance Mooch Tour on my way to the Eastern Shore Ride in Chincoteague. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, NY YankeeSmuggler II

                        goldwingman40
                        3/28/2012, 09:00 pm
                        New Clutch?
                        Tim, Put that gasket on a good clean surface dry. That gasket swells with many of the gasket sealers. I tryed Permatex high tack gasket sealer and it swelled right after I sprayed it. I would order 2 gaskets so you have a spare if you have a

                          yankeesmuggler
                          3/28/2012, 09:08 pm
                          New Clutch?
                          I put a new gasket on a couple of years ago at John Handford's home and he just put on some goop to hold, not an adhesive, it in place so the gasket will still be good when I remove it. Tim Davies Seneca Falls, NY YankeeSmuggler II

    supremecommanderhanson
    4/4/2014, 12:00 am
    clutch replacement
    Do doubt this has been discussed before.  I've been digging thru the files but can't find the answer.My clutch is slipping some and have the time and interest in correcting the problem.  Not exsactly sure what parts to order. &n

    Tim Davies
    4/5/2014, 12:00 am
    Re: PC800: Re: New Clutch?
    Has anyone tried Barrett clutch springs? They were the hot set-up for the Suzuki Cavalcade. I bought a set for the PC, but haven't gotten around to installing them yet. Bob CarrStem NCIBA #56949

    robert_a_carr
    4/5/2014, 12:00 am
    Re: New Clutch?
    Has anyone tried Barrett clutch springs? They were the hot set-up for the Suzuki Cavalcade. I bought a set for the PC, but haven't gotten around to installing them yet. Bob CarrStem NCIBA #56949

    revconprince
    4/5/2014, 12:00 am
    Re: New Clutch?
    If you are changing the oil, I would try Honda synthetic. It may take a month or so before you see an improvement, but I would definitely say the clutch engagement has a lot more bite since I switched to Honda synthetic. 

    gibinmich
    4/5/2014, 12:00 am
    Re: New Clutch?
    I would guess most of the PCs on the road have a slipping clutch and cam plugs that leak a little bit. . Many PCs have either the leak the slip the tweet or the shakes. I have all four.

    supremecommanderhanson
    4/5/2014, 12:00 am
    Re: New Clutch?
    Good nights sleep and a fresh attitude and I found the post in our files.  Looks like thats what I would need but.. After reading some conversations out of our history I've decided to try a Rotella oil change first.  Had the Honda shop

    gti52
    4/6/2014, 12:00 am
    Re: New Clutch?
    I would ask where you mechanic gets his crack!  $850 for a clutch on ANY motorcycle is irate.  I bought the parts for my clutch off EBAY for less than $40.  That was for new name brand fiber plates and springs, and a new gasket. 

    goldwingman40
    4/6/2014, 12:00 am
    Re: clutch replacement
    You probably don't need plates unless it has been badly abused. It is usually the springs that have sacked out about 1/16", just enough to let the plates slip a little under heavy loading. When they get old with the heat it happens.

    aayjayhod3
    4/6/2014, 12:00 am
    Re: New Clutch?
    If you can turn a wrench, even a little bit, changing out your clutch isn't difficult and a hell of a lot cheaper.