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LED conversion difficulties
Written by alfr4d on 3/29/2012 at 02:38 am


Hello to all,
Yesterday I mounted the same LED's as mentioned in the link below as nice for
the licence-plate/taillight to the dashboard. I was expecting those long LED's
would not fit in and also bought smaller but there was room enough for all ten
and the holes were big enough. I finally ran into problems with the rubber lamp
holders, they will precisely fit over the wedge bulbs but there is a little
space left with the LED's much smaller base. One LED had a wire that happened to
be not long enough. I am just hoping a little silicone is keeping these lights
seated. The light looks good but the red oil indicator is not to clear at all
and the rev counter is still dark right at the lower revs. I still can not see
the light from the speedometer or rev counter day-over but could see that near
the end of the day. The turn signal indicators are the best improvement. They
shine clear now and a make the turn signal go just a little faster. I like that
adjustment. Thought I also would want to let you know that my hands smell like
rubber enormously. Greetings. Alfred

--- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Alfred W" <alfred.wams@...> wrote:
>
> > > > First, a question. What LEDs did you use in the tail/brake lights? > >
>
>
> Hi to everybody.
>
> http://img842.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=led9.jpg
>
> Today I received new "wedge type" LED lights. They are Warm White and
extremely long shaped. I fitted one to the middle taillight and like to share
the result with you. There will hardly be any bigger LED wedge light bulb for
the license plate light. Its length fitted tight, without touching, and it's
bound to stay into place like in Hotel California. I ordered some similar Warm
White LED bulbs that are one row shorter for the dash. I will take and use
whatever fits. The Warm White is still a very cool white light but a little more
red behind the red lens then the cool white LED from the brake taillights, it is
to be seen at some of the pictures (slide-show at the above link) and I included
a picture from those LED's also. The brake lights work at 1/3 their power as
taillights, because the dots have three chips each. That is why it just looks
like them not being able of filling the lens with light at the corners, like the
wedge type does. I think this has a good effect in people instantly knowing that
I am not braking.
>
> This is the link to the add of these wedge mini-towers (2X):
>
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/2-x-194-168-501-T10-9-5050-SMD-Warm-White-LED-Car-Side-Pa\
rking-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-/290648013042?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=\
item43abf8b8f2

> The seller:
> http://stores.ebay.nl/1e-market-for-town?_trksid=p4340.l2563
> These the specifications:
> For DC 12 Volts only
> Current: 30mA
> Power:0.36W
> color: Warm white (3000-3500k)
> Lumen: 35-40
> Diameter&#65306;12mm
> Length&#65306;35mm
> Life time: more than 5,000 hours
> The picture in the add reflects the sort of gray light they produce except it
is in fact rather blinding and without very noticeable dark spots in the
corners. I did put the red dot on the sides.
>
> I do not have to worry about blackened wedge bulbs anymore. The former turned
noticeably black within a year. Greetings. Alfred
>
> --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "douglasvanb" <douglas.vanbossuyt@> wrote:
> >
> > Alfred,
> >
> > With respect to the T10 wedge-style base bulbs that are in the center
license plate/ tail light position and behind every gauge in the instrument
cluster, the bulbs I found (and linked to in a previous post) save 4 watts per
bulb (if you believe the manufacturers). There are 11 bulbs of that style on a
stock PC800. That adds up to big savings fast if extra watts are what you're
going for.
> >
> > Two years ago when I first looked into converting to LED, the bulbs on the
market weren't acceptable. They've improved quite a bit since then. In another
two years I bet they'll be even better. Have you looked around recently to see
what you can source domestically? There might be a better option that is red
for your tail lights. The ones I got for the brake lights were red. I had to
settle for a white T10 bulb for the tail light/license plate bulb though. Can't
have everything :-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Douglas
> >
> > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Alfred W" <alfred.wams@> wrote:
> > >
> > > These are my taillights Dave, because they seem so much bigger.
> > >
> > > http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5578/ledlampjes.jpg
> > >
> > > The lights were not red and they really have to be, so I do not know where
to acquire. It was bought years ago, when there was no choice in color of light.
I bought them on e-bay.
> > >
> > > The middle and license plate light is a small bulb and they do not make
lights with lots of white light shining downwards and red light up front. Do not
bather this bulb but replace it with a clean conventional one (they will turn
black on the inside long before they burn out). After-all an LED light is not
completely without load either and in only one such small bulb there is not a
lot to gain.
> > >
> > > Alfred
> > >
> > > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Long" <dave13@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Doug [et al]:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > First, a question. What LEDs did you use in the tail/brake lights? I
used
> > > > an 1157(red) replacement and it's a bayonet style that shoots the light
> > > > upward. At night it's OK, but other riders complain by day. I'm trying
to
> > > > find a reasonably priced 1157 LED that has the "right angle"
configuration
> > > > for the PC's rear light setup. This was to fix my incandescent bulbs
that
> > > > were dim. I guess that this didn't fix my problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Next, my experience. I have a brake light modulator that flashed the
lights
> > > > three times before they stay on for the duration of braking. I am not
sure
> > > > of the brand name-it came with my PC800 so I didn't acquire/install it
> > > > myself. That seems to alleviate the need for resistors in-line with
the
> > > > LEDs. [Oh, why are you against some small resistors with the LEDs?]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > 89 PC800
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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