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LED conversion difficulties
Written by alfr4d on 3/29/2012 at 02:38 am


Hello to all,
Yesterday I mounted the same LED's as mentioned in the link below as nice for
the licence-plate/taillight to the dashboard. I was expecting those long LED's
would not fit in and also bought smaller but there was room enough for all ten
and the holes were big enough. I finally ran into problems with the rubber lamp
holders, they will precisely fit over the wedge bulbs but there is a little
space left with the LED's much smaller base. One LED had a wire that happened to
be not long enough. I am just hoping a little silicone is keeping these lights
seated. The light looks good but the red oil indicator is not to clear at all
and the rev counter is still dark right at the lower revs. I still can not see
the light from the speedometer or rev counter day-over but could see that near
the end of the day. The turn signal indicators are the best improvement. They
shine clear now and a make the turn signal go just a little faster. I like that
adjustment. Thought I also would want to let you know that my hands smell like
rubber enormously. Greetings. Alfred

--- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Alfred W" <alfred.wams@...> wrote:
>
> > > > First, a question. What LEDs did you use in the tail/brake lights? > >
>
>
> Hi to everybody.
>
> http://img842.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.php?id=led9.jpg
>
> Today I received new "wedge type" LED lights. They are Warm White and
extremely long shaped. I fitted one to the middle taillight and like to share
the result with you. There will hardly be any bigger LED wedge light bulb for
the license plate light. Its length fitted tight, without touching, and it's
bound to stay into place like in Hotel California. I ordered some similar Warm
White LED bulbs that are one row shorter for the dash. I will take and use
whatever fits. The Warm White is still a very cool white light but a little more
red behind the red lens then the cool white LED from the brake taillights, it is
to be seen at some of the pictures (slide-show at the above link) and I included
a picture from those LED's also. The brake lights work at 1/3 their power as
taillights, because the dots have three chips each. That is why it just looks
like them not being able of filling the lens with light at the corners, like the
wedge type does. I think this has a good effect in people instantly knowing that
I am not braking.
>
> This is the link to the add of these wedge mini-towers (2X):
>
http://www.ebay.nl/itm/2-x-194-168-501-T10-9-5050-SMD-Warm-White-LED-Car-Side-Pa\
rking-Tail-Lights-Bulbs-/290648013042?pt=UK_CarsParts_Vehicles_CarParts_SM&hash=\
item43abf8b8f2

> The seller:
> http://stores.ebay.nl/1e-market-for-town?_trksid=p4340.l2563
> These the specifications:
> For DC 12 Volts only
> Current: 30mA
> Power:0.36W
> color: Warm white (3000-3500k)
> Lumen: 35-40
> Diameter&#65306;12mm
> Length&#65306;35mm
> Life time: more than 5,000 hours
> The picture in the add reflects the sort of gray light they produce except it
is in fact rather blinding and without very noticeable dark spots in the
corners. I did put the red dot on the sides.
>
> I do not have to worry about blackened wedge bulbs anymore. The former turned
noticeably black within a year. Greetings. Alfred
>
> --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "douglasvanb" <douglas.vanbossuyt@> wrote:
> >
> > Alfred,
> >
> > With respect to the T10 wedge-style base bulbs that are in the center
license plate/ tail light position and behind every gauge in the instrument
cluster, the bulbs I found (and linked to in a previous post) save 4 watts per
bulb (if you believe the manufacturers). There are 11 bulbs of that style on a
stock PC800. That adds up to big savings fast if extra watts are what you're
going for.
> >
> > Two years ago when I first looked into converting to LED, the bulbs on the
market weren't acceptable. They've improved quite a bit since then. In another
two years I bet they'll be even better. Have you looked around recently to see
what you can source domestically? There might be a better option that is red
for your tail lights. The ones I got for the brake lights were red. I had to
settle for a white T10 bulb for the tail light/license plate bulb though. Can't
have everything :-)
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > Douglas
> >
> > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Alfred W" <alfred.wams@> wrote:
> > >
> > > These are my taillights Dave, because they seem so much bigger.
> > >
> > > http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5578/ledlampjes.jpg
> > >
> > > The lights were not red and they really have to be, so I do not know where
to acquire. It was bought years ago, when there was no choice in color of light.
I bought them on e-bay.
> > >
> > > The middle and license plate light is a small bulb and they do not make
lights with lots of white light shining downwards and red light up front. Do not
bather this bulb but replace it with a clean conventional one (they will turn
black on the inside long before they burn out). After-all an LED light is not
completely without load either and in only one such small bulb there is not a
lot to gain.
> > >
> > > Alfred
> > >
> > > --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Dave Long" <dave13@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Doug [et al]:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > First, a question. What LEDs did you use in the tail/brake lights? I
used
> > > > an 1157(red) replacement and it's a bayonet style that shoots the light
> > > > upward. At night it's OK, but other riders complain by day. I'm trying
to
> > > > find a reasonably priced 1157 LED that has the "right angle"
configuration
> > > > for the PC's rear light setup. This was to fix my incandescent bulbs
that
> > > > were dim. I guess that this didn't fix my problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Next, my experience. I have a brake light modulator that flashed the
lights
> > > > three times before they stay on for the duration of braking. I am not
sure
> > > > of the brand name-it came with my PC800 so I didn't acquire/install it
> > > > myself. That seems to alleviate the need for resistors in-line with
the
> > > > LEDs. [Oh, why are you against some small resistors with the LEDs?]
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > > 89 PC800
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Message Thread for message #111763

douglasvanb
2/12/2012, 05:19 am
LED conversion difficulties
Hello Coasters, Thanks to a very frugal December (who needs to eat?!), I purchased LED replacement bulbs for every single bulb on my PC800. Over the last several days I installed all of the bulbs. The new bulbs look great and are as brigh

    kd5fdw
    2/12/2012, 03:48 pm
    LED conversion difficulties
    Doug [et al]: First, a question. What LEDs did you use in the tail/brake lights? I used an 1157(red) replacement and it's a bayonet style that shoots the light upward. At night it's OK, but other riders complain by day. I'm trying to

      douglasvanb
      2/12/2012, 04:56 pm
      LED conversion difficulties
      Dave, The bulbs I bought are as follows: 1157 brake lights (red): http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004C8L1AE/ 1157 turn signal lights (white):

      alfr4d
      2/13/2012, 06:34 pm
      LED conversion difficulties
      These are my taillights Dave, because they seem so much bigger. http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/5578/ledlampjes.jpg The lights were not red and they really have to b

        douglasvanb
        2/13/2012, 07:57 pm
        LED conversion difficulties
        Alfred, With respect to the T10 wedge-style base bulbs that are in the center license plate/ tail light position and behind every gauge in the instrument cluster, the bulbs I found (and linked to in a previous post) save 4 watts per bulb

          alfr4d
          3/6/2012, 08:09 pm
          LED conversion difficulties
          > > > First, a question. What LEDs did you use in the tail/brake lights? > > > Hi to everybody. http://img842.imageshack.us/slideshow/webplayer.p

            alfr4d
            3/29/2012, 02:38 am
            LED conversion difficulties
            Hello to all, Yesterday I mounted the same LED's as mentioned in the link below as nice for the licence-plate/taillight to the dashboard. I was expecting those long LED's would not fit in and also bought smaller but there was room enough

              alfr4d
              3/29/2012, 03:56 pm
              LED conversion difficulties
              I think I solved the problem with the LED dash-lights possibly able to sneak out of their rubber sockets and fall into the dash housing. Glue wont help, both the plastic and the rubber are not good material to have glue stuck on. I will pull

                douglasvanb
                3/29/2012, 05:49 pm
                LED conversion difficulties
                Alfred, That is a very strange problem. I think that we are using the same little lamps for the instrument panel. On my instrument panel, the lamps are held in place VERY well by the rubber boots. Fishing line sounds like a good solution

                  alfr4d
                  3/30/2012, 06:04 pm
                  LED conversion difficulties
                  I could push a match in if I wanted. For these long lights this is not right. The taillight was no problem glueing but the rubber is very slippery and I was right, the silicone did not stick much to it. Solved it today with two strands of

    kyle.mason66
    2/12/2012, 07:04 pm
    LED conversion difficulties
    Doug, I didn't change my turn signals over to LED, but I think you can use a relay in place of a resistor. Here is a web page example (not endorsing this web page or any particular product).

      douglasvanb
      2/12/2012, 09:22 pm
      LED conversion difficulties
      Kyle, Thank you for the link. I am going to give that company a call on Monday to see what they think. It appears that I might have toasted my self-cancel turn signal control unit (the thing buried inside of the steering stem). I'v

        tradewinds1964
        2/13/2012, 06:08 am
        LED conversion difficulties
        I used that same company to replace my instrument panel lights. Also used them for the interior lights in my car. They have a great product and I have no complaints with them. I do remember a while back that it was mentioned that the PC d

          douglasvanb
          2/13/2012, 06:17 am
          LED conversion difficulties
          Okay Ting... I'll bite... what HID kit would I theoretically use if I were to convert over to using HID? Would I need to worry about melting the plastic headlight housing? You're a bad influence on me! :-) Cheers, Douglas

            tradewinds1964
            2/13/2012, 06:46 am
            LED conversion difficulties
            I'm a bad influence? It was all the reading on your site that eventually paved the way to this site and then buying my PC. To blame me is to blame thyself sir! LOL! I have the 10,000 brightness kit for my bike. It uses the H4 bi Xenon bul

              douglasvanb
              2/13/2012, 06:52 am
              LED conversion difficulties
              Just wait until the two of us get picked up for one of those pimp-my-motorcycle cable tv shows... "no no! it needs MORE trunk!" Did you retrofit in a projector housing or did it drop straight in? I've seen plenty of cars that ha

                tradewinds1964
                2/13/2012, 03:17 pm
                LED conversion difficulties
                Stop! Stop! You're getting me all excited and making everyone else jealous. Holy snicker bars Batman, we could have a built in Uni-Go trailor butt. Oh my god Susan. Look at that motorcycle's butt. The bulb dropped straight in. It has a li