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Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
Written by Leland Sheppard on 9/26/2012 at 12:00 am

Hi Pogo,

When I originally had the upside down voltage problem, I swapped the R/R
with a known good one and nothing changed.

I do NOT have the direct wire mod to the R/R.

I actually went out and bought a battery load tester because of the
upside down issue. In this case, I tried 2 different batteries as well
and with both of them testing healthy and being fully charged at the
time, the situation didn't change.

I never did figure out why it disappeared.

It looks as though I'm eventually going to have to bite the bullet and I
think when I do I will replace the stator, regulator AND the battery...

The first day or two after the short circuit incident, the system seemed
to be running in a completely normal fashion.

Since then I've noticed that I am degrading again. It is taking longer
and longer for the light to go from yellow to green. Once it goes green,
it doesn't take much to get it back to yellow again but it will return
to green even at high speeds. This was the way it behaved before I went
upside down which is why I think I'm on my way back there...

The one thing I am doing differently now is to keep it on a tender every
night. I think I am artificially keeping the battery up and that it is
only a question of time before I will have to do a major electrical
system repair.

The bike has 147,000 plus miles. The R/R was changed at 24,225 miles
(the first one just died - had to get towed home; bike wouldn't even
start) and the stator at 53,837 miles. The first battery on the bike
lasted 11 years (yeah, I was amazed too. It was so old it still had the
date thing stuck to it showing the month and year it was put into
service. It was the original Honda/Yuasa battery; I changed it in June
of 2000.) The second battery lasted 7 years; it was replaced in
7/2007. The third one lasted only 2 years; it was replaced in 12/2009.
And the fourth one is still in the bike. I have a hunch it's fine but
that the system is not keeping it charged properly thus the tender at
night...

My daily commute is 80 miles round trip with all but the last mile being
highway riding. So I think I might be able to nurse it for quite a while...

Thanks for your thoughts.

Leland

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Message Thread for message #116842

Leland Sheppard
9/23/2012, 12:00 am
Very strange "repair" (long)
Hi Coasters,I had a really weird one happen on the PCH ride a few days back.Tuesday, while heading north on CA49, we stopped for butt and potty breaks at North San Juan. When we got ready to leave and I went to start up

    goldwingman40
    9/23/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Leland,Exactly how do you hook your jumpers at the bike?Fred

    unlikelyloginname
    9/24/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Leland,Since you know better than to have loose or corroded connections at the battery, we can rule that out. Shorting the battery with the engine not running shouldn't affect anything other than the battery. I suppose it's possibl

    douglasvanb
    9/24/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Did I just feel my ears burning?On my PC, the previous owner put some wire from the battery through a small hole into the trunk. The ends are capped with some wire nuts. It has sat that way for five years since he installed it and was only

    Leland Sheppard
    9/25/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Hi Fred,

    dave_hiett
    9/25/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, Leland Sheppard <leland@...> wrote:

    pogomann2002
    9/25/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Hey Leland,Once again the upside voltage thread begins! LOL for the rest of the gang, a few years ago I requested information from the group in trying to define an electrical malfunction where your voltmeter reads higher voltage at idle than at

    Leland Sheppard
    9/25/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Hi Seth,

    Leland Sheppard
    9/26/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Hi Pogo,When I originally had the upside down voltage problem, I swapped the R/R with a known good one and nothing changed.I do NOT have the direct wire mod to the R/R.I actually went out and bought a battery load te

    unlikelyloginname
    9/26/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, Leland Sheppard <leland@...> wrote:

    pogomann2002
    9/26/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Hey Leland,I do remember the most of those details from back then but I don't remember if the stator was tested?? Seems like I'm sure you would have done this however I would ask that you run the stator tests again since it might be more

    alfr4d
    9/26/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Hello Coasters. How I read it, the ground has been in contact with 12 Volt and how many Amp? Alfred

    unlikelyloginname
    9/26/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "pogomann2002" <dedge@...> wrote:

    pogomann2002
    9/26/2012, 12:00 am
    Re: Very strange "repair" (long)
    Seth, Thanks for the overview and especially the moving pictures!!!way better than a Powerpoint or another phase graph. Another mechanical failure that leads to an open with no output is the soder connection at the "Y" overhea