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Headlight Question
Written by mikeyb_houtex on 5/17/2010 at 02:50 am

I know of no PC that has any *glass* enclosure. The halogen bulbs are of course
encased in glass... hence the reason you do not touch the glass capsule lest it
overheat and break.

And yes, in fact, we *are* talking about temperature. I have a little study
about Gen1 Mark VIII lenses that describe exactly why they are destined to fail
without exception... to the point that every single Gen1 Mark VIII with Halogen
lamp assemblies are going to be unroadworthy without serious modifications:
http://web.wt.net/~houtex/marklights.htm

Point is... I had the PIAA 90/100 watt in my PC before it blew. And I went back
to a standard 55/60... but the damage is done. The heat from the higher wattage
light (which, incidentally, IS a measure of heat, of sorts) has in fact
discolored the housing slightly.

Thankfully, with the extra room that the PC's lamp housing provides versus the
Mark VIII's, the damage is rather minimal, and the lamp works quite well with a
new standard H4 halogen replacement.

I am also a fan of the Silverstars. I just didn't, after getting a standard
55/60 watt bulb, see the need myself. But yes, even in the Mark VIII's damaged
housings, it was noticeable.

On the topic of HIDs... there are several 'papers' out there regarding a couple
of topics called 'Focal Length' and 'Arc Shape'. The filament of a bulb versus
the arc of an HID are quite different, and the HID has to be positioned
*exactly* to match the filaments. And no HID will produce a correct high beam
in a single capsule/housing lest you actually MOVE the capsule 'backwards'.
They are also not DOT legal, and generally produce quite the bit of glare when
used in a standard Halogen type assembly. Glare isn't something you want to
give anyone who might hit you. I do not recommend HID without an entire DOT
tested and approved assembly, something you won't get with a PC, unfortunately.

--- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "cykleman" <cykleman@...> wrote:
>
> Okay, we're talking about light temperature, the heat is not a farenheight
equivalent. There is no temperature differentials in the heat the bulb gives
off. The other point is, if your PC is like mine, It's housing is glass, so
temperatures are of no concern. Your main problem is space. While HID uses less
electrical current, are definately brighter than halogens, last much longer, you
have to use an upgrade kit. The space is really limited on the PC. I use the
Sylvania Silver Star Halogens on my PC. I will not kid you, the difference is
visible.
> Kenney
>
> --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "Larry" <LND71@> wrote:
> >
> > Does anyone use the PIAA Bulb? If so which one and is anyone converted to
the H.I.D Bulb?
> >
>

Message Thread for message #93234

"Gregg L. DesElms"
8/15/1996, 11:55 am
Newbie; backrest & trunk; which years red?
At 06:28 8/15/96 -0500, Steven D. Turner wrote: > >My ride is an 89 PC800(25,000 mi),it has the tall Honda solar >stove windshield, Get a Rifle. >the common scraping inside the trunk from the rear tire,
RSpar43
6/28/2001, 02:11 am
Headlight Question
Hi All; Well, its finally happened, the headlight on my '90 just burned out after only 11 years and 62000 miles! In 1995 TWO dashlights burned out and the centerstand bolt got loose and I had to tighten it. Oh yes, and I broke a speedo

    roger@emav33.webo.dg.com (Roger Prince)
    8/15/1996, 02:16 pm
    Re: Newbie; backrest & trunk; which years red?

    "Gregg L. DesElms"
    8/15/1996, 05:34 pm
    Re: Newbie; backrest & trunk; which years red?
    At 15:16 8/15/96 -0400, Roger Prince wrote: > >1990 is the only factory candy glory red year. 94,95 both black. > If so, then two things about this bike-for-sale are true: 1. He has repainted the lower/trim porti

    ebsoloway
    6/28/2001, 01:59 pm
    Headlight Question
    Richie: I have to agree with Russ Vernon, you have a lemon for a PC. I wouldn't give you $500.00 for it. If Russ wants it, if I were you, I would sell it to him. Five hundred dollars can buy a lot of Pastrami in New York. And ju

    lcshepp
    6/29/2001, 05:08 am
    Headlight Question
    Hi Richie, To answer question #5 ("Do I have a lemon for a PC?"), the answer would have to be an emphatic yes. And in order to spare you any further grief with that lemon, I am proposing to take it off your hands for a ve

    rlinard622
    11/29/2005, 11:29 pm
    Headlight Question
    On sunny days, I always use my high beam. You cannot pick up the low beam very well on a bright day............much better visibility with the high beam. Try it for yourself......you will be convinced. PS: This is standard practice with m

      colincelliott
      11/30/2005, 12:27 am
      Headlight Question
      This is also the "recommended" practice suggested by the various Motorcycling safety organisations. Colin GR8 PC --- In

    lnd71...
    5/16/2010, 10:27 pm
    Headlight Question
    Does anyone use the PIAA Bulb? If so which one and is anyone converted to the H.I.D Bulb?

      cykleman
      5/17/2010, 12:58 am
      Headlight Question
      Okay, we're talking about light temperature, the heat is not a farenheight equivalent. There is no temperature differentials in the heat the bulb gives off. The other point is, if your PC is like mine, It's housing is glass, so temperatures a

        mikeyb_houtex
        5/17/2010, 02:50 am
        Headlight Question
        I know of no PC that has any *glass* enclosure. The halogen bulbs are of course encased in glass... hence the reason you do not touch the glass capsule lest it overheat and break. And yes, in fact, we *are* talking about temperature. I ha

          robertemccle...
          5/17/2010, 11:37 am
          Headlight Question
          I use the PIAA bulb. It is the 15224 and is listed as Extreme White Plus (H4) 55/60 watts. I like it. It replaced a Silver Star. I don't use a modulator. Hope that helps, Robert --- In

        mikeyb_houtex
        5/17/2010, 02:51 am
        Headlight Question
        Oops, also forgot to mention, the higher wattage bulb will mean less other items you can attach to a PC800 due to it's anemic stator. So there's that to consider. --- In

          cykleman
          5/17/2010, 02:19 pm
          Headlight Question
          Concerning the higher wattages, the light brightness changes with the different bulb heat range, the wattage differnetial is nominal. If one is using a real HID bulb, the system uses less energy to produce more light than the halogens, last u

        rckamikaze55
        5/17/2010, 09:06 pm
        Headlight Question
        Kenney, How about a P.N. on the Sylvania bulb?? Stephen Sr. --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "cykleman" <cy

          cykleman
          5/18/2010, 03:30 am
          Headlight Question
          Stephen Your Sylvania Part number is H4ST...The H4 bulb, Siver Star..it is quite impressive the first time you change to it. Your periferal view is much improved as well. --- In