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Silicate free antifreeze: A necessity for long water pump life
Written by skyeenter on 10/3/2010 at 02:14 am

Mac, that's quite a link. Particularly the info on aggressive rusting if level
get low and O2 in increased in the cooling system.

Dan, I may be about as cheap as you but I'm not gonna risk my engine for a
couple of bucks.

--- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, Mac Hancock <mac.hancock57@...> wrote:
>
> I found the following information about mixing antifreeze with different
> colors,? take it for what it is worth.? I do not have personal experience with
> any problems.? Thought it might be worth considering!?
>
> http://autos.aol.com/article/coolant-color
> Mac H.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Mac Hancock <mac.hancock57@...>
> To: ipcrc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 2, 2010 1:35:37 PM
> Subject: Re: PC800: Re: Silicate free antifreeze: A necessity for long water
> pump life
>
> It seems to me that I read awhile back that you should not mix Dex Cool
> antifreeze with non Dex Cool antifreeze.? I will do some research and see if I
> can find the information.? It even said that is was not enough to just flush
the
>
> system with water.? It seems that using Dex Cool in a system that has had
> another type antifreeze the Dex Cool changes to jelly like.? Maybe someone who
> knows more than I will chime in soon.
> Ride Safe!!!!?? Mac H.
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan G <dndgentili@...>
> To: ipcrc@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sat, October 2, 2010 1:04:42 PM
> Subject: PC800: Re: Silicate free antifreeze: A necessity for long water pump
> life
>
>
> Yes, Skye, SILICATES ARE BAD!!
>
> If you're cheap like PC**** and me ;-)? you'll like Dex Cool --
> http://www.havoline.com/products/na/antifreeze.html.? It is silicate-free,
too.?
>
> You can use it in your autos, trucks, and cycles!
>
> But, as you said, $10, buying it from Honda, is cheap insurance plus there is
no
>
> mixing necessary.
>
> YMMV,
> VA Dan
>
> --- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "skyeenter" <skyeenter@> wrote:
> >
> > Coasters, just reading through past posts on antifreeze.? As some of this
info
>
> >is from early posts, and there are quite a few new owners who may not know
this,
> >
> >thought it was important enough to consolidate some of the wisdom and post
it.
> >
> >
> > The silicates are known to eat up the seal on the water pump not the gasket.
> >Unless I was misinformed by Honda when I worked for them the OEM antifreeze
did
>
> >not have
> >
> > silicates. If you go to the "photos" section of the group and go
> > to "misc" and then "antifreeze" you will get 2 pictures of
> > the "promotional" information flyer Honda supplied dealers on the
> > evils of silicates. You can click on the picture once to make it
> > larger then again to make it large enough to read.
> >
> > As far back as the mid 80's (the earliest I can remember this coming
> > up) when Wings were eating waterpumps Honda told us - No Silicates.
> > Yes, we had mechanics in the service department who said it was B.S.
> > and an owner who looked at the difference in cost and allowed them
> > to use car antifreeze.
> >
> > As I have stated before I personally run Hondaline antifreeze. At
> > $3.60 a quart the bike holds 2 quarts and I keep some spare. Let's
> > say you buy 3 quarts and spend a whole $10.80. Cheap insurance in
> > my book. I also change it every 2 years. Oh my! How I throw my
> > money away. ;^)
> >
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ipcrc/message/41679
> >
> > _________________________________________________
> >
> > Purchase the quart (or liter) bottles of HONDA pre-mixed coolant from your
> > HONDA motorcycle dealer. It is the proper stuff, and pre-mixed in a 50-50 %
> >mixture. I believe HONDA car dealers also carry it.
> >
> > It is about $6 a bottle, and three bottles will leave you over half a spare
> >bottle.
> >
> > Remember to drain it all, re-fill with water only, run the bike a few
> > moments, drain, repeat.
> >
> > Then drain again, close the drain bolt, and pour the bottles in. When full,
go
>
> >for a short ride, return, cool the bike and check the levels. You have to
"burp"
> >
> >out any residual bubbles...
> >
> > To refresh the coolant overflow I just siphon the tank out, then re-fill to?
> >the cool line.
> >
> > I also like to add 3 or 4 ounces or RED LINE Water Wetter, available at any
> >good Auto Speed Shop and most motorcycle dealers. Makes the water "wetter"
and
> >able to transfer heat better. Valuable if you run in hot conditions.
> >
> > Have your dealer or a speed shop check your "radiator cap" for proper
> > pressure, too. A poor cap looks OK, but will cause boil-over and what
> > appears to be coolant leakage.
> >
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ipcrc/message/49502
> >
> > The problem with the above is that you can't drain everything. Thats
> > why you were flushing with water, to push the other out and dilute it.
> > So when you go filling it up with 50/50 premix you can never maintain
> > that 50/50 solution due to the water you could not get out.
> >
> > What I do is dig out the spec sheet for the engine. After flushing with
> >distilled water, not tap water, not drinking water, and draining as much as
will
> >
> >come out, add half of the system's capacity of
> > concentrated coolant. Then top off with distilled water. This is the
> > only way one can maintain the proper coolant mixture ratio.
> >
> > Silicate-free is important for the life of your water pump seals.
> > Borate-free and phosphate-free are also good ideas.
> >
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ipcrc/message/49508
> >
> >
> > I refilled mine with the Long Life antifreeze...the orange stuff made for GM
> >cars. It has no silicates.
> >
> > http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/ipcrc/message/49498
> >
>
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