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HIDs ?
Written by timdearborn on 10/30/2010 at 02:10 pm

Review of HID Headlight
I have had opportunity to put about 60 miles on with my newly installed HID
headlight. For information on purchasing and installation, read the post
below...

Brightness: The HID headlight is easily 300% to 400% brighter than stock.

Fill: The light does a excellent job at filling the road in front of you. It
seems to have a wider spread and does a better job at lighting up the sides of
the road too (think deer).

Color: I chose a 6000K color bulb. I love the color, which is pure white with a
hint of blue. It is similar in color to many modern-day LED hiker headlamps, and
is one of the most popular colors chosen.

Hi/Low: The high beam works similar to the way it does on stock. I'm not sure I
would ever use it though. I find the low setting fill pattern wider, more
useful, and illuminating plenty of distance down the road.

Other drivers: In 60 miles of day and night riding (granted, not a lot yet), I
never had a vehicle flash me to dim the headlight. When following a friend that
was use to my stock light, he waved me over within a couple of blocks (without
my asking), to inform me how much more bright and noticeable my headlight was in
his mirror.

Warming Up: It takes a few seconds for the HID light to gain intensity. It
reaches 75% intensity after about 10 seconds and full intensity in about 30
seconds.

Other Misc: The moment I turn your key on, I hear a faint whine, which I assume
is the ballast of the HID headlight. Once the engine is started, this whine is
not perceptible. Starting (and electrical draw in general) does not seem to be
any different from stock.

If you need to replace a headlight, or what to be more visible in general, I
highly recommend looking into HID bulbs.

-Tim Dearborn
Blue Island, IL, USA
'96 Pacific Coast, "Tuppie", 36K

--- In ipcrc@yahoogroups.com, "TimD" <tim@...> wrote:
>
> I just installed a HID headlight from vvme.com. The kit I got was a 12V
50/55W H4-3(9003) Bi-Xenon HID Kit color: 6000K - found at
http://www.vvme.com/12v-5055w-h439003-bixenon-hid-kit-p-31.html?cPath=44_46_35 -
for about $59 or so with the one headlight instead of two. This kit comes with
a headlight relay, so you are drawing power directly from the battery, and not
through the headlight switch.
>
> A note on the company: you will find vvme's name popping up on several
different vehicle forums. They appear to be a German based company. I had
troubles contacting them at first. I sent a detailed email that went
unanswered. I called several times, only to get an answering machine.
Eventually, I decided to leave a message. Finally I got a call back from a lady
with a very heavy accent. I told her what I wanted (one bulb instead of two in
the kit), and she quoted me a price. I paid on Paypal but didn't have an
invoice, which I was a little nervous about. Due to misunderstanding the amount
due to the accent, I paid the wrong amount. After we finally got the payment
straightened out, they shipped the product rather quickly, and I received it -
mailed to me directly from China.
>
> Now - on to the headlight. To prepare, I installed an auxiliary fuse box (I
had been wanting to do this for a while anyway. I then removed the windshield,
removed the original bulb (good directions on the forum for this), put the new
bulb in, and plugged everything up. I did run a longer hot wire from my new
fuse box and a longer ground wire to the headlight ballast. If I didn't need
longer wires, this install would have been entirely plug and play.
>
> I am not very good mechanically, so I was pleasantly surprised when I turned
the ignition key and the headlight actually worked! I noticed faint whine (maybe
the ballast?), which would probably not be noticeable at all if the engine where
on. The headlight took a minute or so to brighten in intensity. I have not taken
it on the road yet, but I can already tell that it is about 3 times brighter
than my original headlight and seems to have a much better fill pattern. High
beam does work as well. I really like the 6000K color that I selected - a nice
white with a hint of blue mixed in.
>
> I will report back in a week or so, once I get some real road experience with
it.

Message Thread for message #98348

bobb_todd
9/2/2010, 05:17 pm
HIDs ?
Has anyone successfully mounted an HID hi/low in a PC ? Compared to the GL1800 [and most modern bikes] the head light seems anemic. Seems to me I remember seeing conversion kits as low as $50-100. TIA Bobb Todd

    yankeesmuggler
    9/2/2010, 05:32 pm
    HIDs ?
    A simple Google search turned up this PC800 specific HID conversion kit that sounds intriguing. I sure would like more light at night. It would have to work with my headlight modulator during the day though.

      swiftly1...
      9/2/2010, 06:57 pm
      HIDs ?
      Tim. I called the company you referenced and they said you would get a single H4 type bulb with high/low beams. The picture shows two bulbs and they said it is a generic picture. I may try it out if I can get my tired old body moving.

    Gwynethh
    9/2/2010, 05:34 pm
    HIDs ?
    Haven't done a HID but did install a Eastern Beaver headlight relay kit to raise the voltage at the headlight. A bit shorter life but more lumens without too much more heat. At the same time we replaced the H4 bulb with a Philips Motovision H

    rwven6956
    9/2/2010, 07:09 pm
    HIDs ?
    I've installed HIDs in my Buell, and they rock. The problem with the H4 HIDs you would need in the PC are that the high/low beam system is severely compromised. In my PC I used an 80/100W lamp and rewired the headlights directly from the

      yankeesmuggler
      9/2/2010, 07:28 pm
      HIDs ?
      I had a 80/100W in Yankee Smuggler I for a few months, but I was not happy with the way it worked with my modulator. It did not produce the same attention getting modulation of the lower wattage bulb. I'm not sure it if was my Kisan unit or m

    rwven6956
    9/2/2010, 07:52 pm
    HIDs ?
    If you do choose to try HIDs, I bought mine here: http://www.vvme.com/ They work great and are reasonably priced. --- In

      swiftly1...
      9/2/2010, 09:32 pm
      HIDs ?
      How does this unit get the low beam? I've heard the beam displacement angle is somewhat wide. I've also read the low beam is done with an internal (to the bulb) mirror. Dick MacInnes

        rwven6956
        9/2/2010, 11:00 pm
        HIDs ?
        There are several ways. The low beam is the default HID light. Some units piggyback a quartz halogen lamp to the HID to get the high beam. Some use a shutter to shade part of the beam from the reflector to differentiate between high and low b

          swiftly1...
          9/3/2010, 01:40 am
          HIDs ?
          Ronald Then I guess the question is: how does the one you have work? and is it satisfactory? Dick

      timdearborn
      9/3/2010, 03:37 am
      HIDs ?
      Ronald, Which kit did you get? -Tim Dearborn Blue Island, IL, USA '96 Pacific Coast, "Tuppie", 34K '06 Vulcan 500, "Sarek", 7K, (Sold) --- In

        rwven6956
        9/3/2010, 12:02 pm
        HIDs ?
        Tim, My bike takes H-7s, so what I got would not apply to the PC. The PC takes an H$. Your choices are: 1. H4 single beam and forgo having a high beam 2. H4 high/low which has an HID low beam and a halogen high beam. This would al

          timdearborn
          9/7/2010, 03:45 am
          HIDs ?
          Thanks for the detailed response. Exactly the info I was looking for. If I order an HID (which may not be for a few more months), I will post exactly which model I get and how well it works. --- In

        gd112049
        9/5/2010, 10:51 am
        HIDs ?
        I just recently installed HIDs in my Burgman 650, amazing difference, the light is better than 50% of the car on the road. Here is the brand I ordered: http://www.ddmtuning.com/products/101

    bobb_todd
    9/2/2010, 09:59 pm
    HIDs ?
    How does this unit get the low beam? I've heard the beam displacement angle is somewhat wide. I've also read the low beam is done with an internal (to the bulb) mirror. ............................. Not sure about this particular one but o

    mostlyhondas
    9/3/2010, 02:00 am
    HIDs ?
    Ronald, Can you tell me more about the Hi/Lo problem? In what ways is it compromised? On Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:09:28 -0000 "Ronald" <

    timdearborn
    10/25/2010, 04:06 am
    HIDs ?
    I just installed a HID headlight from vvme.com. The kit I got was a 12V 50/55W H4-3(9003) Bi-Xenon HID Kit color: 6000K - found at http://www.vvme.com/12v-5

      timdearborn
      10/30/2010, 02:10 pm
      HIDs ?
      Review of HID Headlight I have had opportunity to put about 60 miles on with my newly installed HID headlight. For information on purchasing and installation, read the post below... Brightness: The HID headlight is easily 300% to 400%

      battchf16
      11/17/2010, 09:29 am
      HIDs ?
      Bobb, Thanks for posting your experience with this. A couple of questions: I take it you installed this kit on a PC-800. Where and how did you mount the ballast unit? Are you saying you had to run a new connection directly fro the bat

      bobb_todd
      11/17/2010, 11:38 am
      HIDs ?
      Thanks for posting your experience with this. A couple of questions: I take it you installed this kit on a PC-800. Where and how did you mount the ballast unit? Are you saying you had to run a new connection directly fro the battery to the

        timdearborn
        11/18/2010, 03:19 am
        HIDs ?
        Yes, I installed this on a PC800. I took the windshield and air vent off to have room to work. If you use the unit from VVME, there are actually 2 boxes to secure. One had a metal bracket with holes. For that one, I found a screw